Comments on: Break Free http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/ a tongue-in-cheek quest for understanding... Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:44:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Jason http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-440 Jason Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:06:40 +0000 http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-440 You're sticking to your guns? Perhaps you should find some <a href='http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=840573'>solvent</a> and "break free". ;) :P You’re sticking to your guns? Perhaps you should find some solvent and “break free”. ;) :P

]]> By: Erin http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-439 Erin Wed, 08 Aug 2007 01:38:57 +0000 http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-439 Wow Jason, you are quick! Yes, it does look like it's mainly semantics; however I am sticking to my guns on this one! Wow Jason, you are quick! Yes, it does look like it’s mainly semantics; however I am sticking to my guns on this one!

]]> By: Jason http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-436 Jason Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:28:03 +0000 http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-436 Here's my explanation... we don't really disagree, we're just wording it differently (Yes, semantics :P). <a href='http://www.amiracleaday.com/articles/2007/08/06/the-truth-about-pain-physical-and-mental'>The Truth About Pain</a> Here’s my explanation… we don’t really disagree, we’re just wording it differently (Yes, semantics :P).

The Truth About Pain

]]> By: Jenny http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-431 Jenny Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:12:14 +0000 http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-431 Perhaps it is a matter of distinction between pain and discomfort? I know personally that I often don't distinguish carefully when describing things such as an uncomfortable conversation or arguement for instance. Not so smart as they are actually radically different things. Possibly the same thing going on here with word choice? Perhaps it is a matter of distinction between pain and discomfort? I know personally that I often don’t distinguish carefully when describing things such as an uncomfortable conversation or arguement for instance. Not so smart as they are actually radically different things. Possibly the same thing going on here with word choice?

]]> By: Erin http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-428 Erin Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:39:31 +0000 http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-428 P.S. Jason, I'm not sure why you don't get comments. Your content is interesting and does pose great questions. I will have to do something thinking about that. P.S. Jason, I’m not sure why you don’t get comments. Your content is interesting and does pose great questions. I will have to do something thinking about that.

]]> By: Erin http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-427 Erin Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:37:47 +0000 http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-427 Jason, You make some valid points. Extreme pain may be a sign to slow down in some cases. What comes to mind is Jenny's recent bout with blisters. Yes, we let that pain stop our walking for the week; however, we are not letting us stop the overall walking dare. We are just figuring out how to readjust. That being said, I still would argue that pain is a sign of progress, not the opposite. Does it come down to semantics? Maybe we just don't have the right words. Mark, I like the idea of re-evaluating a goal so motivation carries you past the mental pain. That seems to require a lot of upfront and intentional work, but pays off in the long run. Regardless of if the pain is a signifier of growth or like Jason said an indication to stop, I think the key is to avoid making big decisions while amidst the pain. These choices seem to alway be somewhat frantic. I think it is important to allow the pain to settle so you have a clear head when trying to figure out the next step. Jason,
You make some valid points. Extreme pain may be a sign to slow down in some cases. What comes to mind is Jenny’s recent bout with blisters. Yes, we let that pain stop our walking for the week; however, we are not letting us stop the overall walking dare. We are just figuring out how to readjust.

That being said, I still would argue that pain is a sign of progress, not the opposite. Does it come down to semantics? Maybe we just don’t have the right words.

Mark, I like the idea of re-evaluating a goal so motivation carries you past the mental pain. That seems to require a lot of upfront and intentional work, but pays off in the long run.

Regardless of if the pain is a signifier of growth or like Jason said an indication to stop, I think the key is to avoid making big decisions while amidst the pain. These choices seem to alway be somewhat frantic. I think it is important to allow the pain to settle so you have a clear head when trying to figure out the next step.

]]> By: Mark http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-421 Mark Mon, 06 Aug 2007 03:32:31 +0000 http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-421 I think that uncomfortable sensations associated with growth may also be reluctance to put in the effort required to create that growth. In that case the mental pain *is* something to push through (in which case I agree with Erin). Either that, or re-evaluate your goal so that you're motivated enough to no longer experience that mental pain (which could be considered letting the mind heal, depending on the circumstance). I think that uncomfortable sensations associated with growth may also be reluctance to put in the effort required to create that growth. In that case the mental pain *is* something to push through (in which case I agree with Erin). Either that, or re-evaluate your goal so that you’re motivated enough to no longer experience that mental pain (which could be considered letting the mind heal, depending on the circumstance).

]]> By: Jason http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-419 Jason Mon, 06 Aug 2007 03:19:01 +0000 http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-419 By the way, how do you get so many comments? I mean, I realize I leave a lot of them, but I wish I got more on my blog. I even had an article go viral, and haven't really gotten any comments :P Maybe I don't leave enough questions open or something. Oh well, one of these days I'll figure out how to make more of my visitors comment and subscribe :P By the way, how do you get so many comments? I mean, I realize I leave a lot of them, but I wish I got more on my blog. I even had an article go viral, and haven’t really gotten any comments :P

Maybe I don’t leave enough questions open or something. Oh well, one of these days I’ll figure out how to make more of my visitors comment and subscribe :P

]]> By: Jason http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-418 Jason Mon, 06 Aug 2007 03:16:40 +0000 http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-418 Pain is almost never, if ever, a sign you should keep on going. Pain CAN be associated with growth, but it's associated by means of telling you "Slow down, so you can heal up and absorb what you've already done". Think of it in terms of working out... you work out to grow, but then if you feel pain, it's your body saying it's time to stop, so that it can heal and build new muscle. If you keep going, you over train and build no muscle, and can even lose muscle you already have. The same goes for mental pain. It's a sign that it's time to stop and let your mind heal. For instance, you can feel pain when you lose a loved one. That pain is telling you it's time to stop, allow yourself to heal, and then move forward once again. Same goes for depression... it's a sign that you need to stop and deal with what you already have, particularly the stuff you have buried/suppressed. The uncomfortable sensations associated with growth are from the need to have recovery from growth already sustained. They are NOT directly a part of the growth, their a sign you may be growing too fast. After all, you don't hurt when you're growing up from your normal growth, only when you have a really fast growth spurt, when your body is straining more than it can sustain. I hope I didn't sound repetitive there. I think you may have just inspired my next article, by the way. Pain is almost never, if ever, a sign you should keep on going. Pain CAN be associated with growth, but it’s associated by means of telling you “Slow down, so you can heal up and absorb what you’ve already done”. Think of it in terms of working out… you work out to grow, but then if you feel pain, it’s your body saying it’s time to stop, so that it can heal and build new muscle. If you keep going, you over train and build no muscle, and can even lose muscle you already have.

The same goes for mental pain. It’s a sign that it’s time to stop and let your mind heal. For instance, you can feel pain when you lose a loved one. That pain is telling you it’s time to stop, allow yourself to heal, and then move forward once again. Same goes for depression… it’s a sign that you need to stop and deal with what you already have, particularly the stuff you have buried/suppressed.

The uncomfortable sensations associated with growth are from the need to have recovery from growth already sustained. They are NOT directly a part of the growth, their a sign you may be growing too fast. After all, you don’t hurt when you’re growing up from your normal growth, only when you have a really fast growth spurt, when your body is straining more than it can sustain.

I hope I didn’t sound repetitive there. I think you may have just inspired my next article, by the way.

]]> By: Erin http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-416 Erin Mon, 06 Aug 2007 00:38:56 +0000 http://jenny-and-erin.com/2007/07/break-free/#comment-416 Jason, it is interesting you bring up pain. Jenny and I were just throwing around the idea this morning that pain may actually be an indicator that you should <em>keep on going</em>. Is it possible that the pain is indicating a need to push through something, and what one is actually feeling is the uncomfortable sensations associated with growth? Jason, it is interesting you bring up pain. Jenny and I were just throwing around the idea this morning that pain may actually be an indicator that you should keep on going. Is it possible that the pain is indicating a need to push through something, and what one is actually feeling is the uncomfortable sensations associated with growth?

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